Comments on: Blue Jays Negligent with Pitchers

By: Alex

Alex — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:49:37 +0000

I think you’re wrong. You aren’t counting college innings when you talk of Marcum at 21, he pitched like 100 innings in college that year in addition to the ones you did count. So the increase is not really significant. I’m sure it’s the same for Janssen.

Ryan and Romero’s current injuries (oblique strains) are not significant in any way. You can strain your oblique tying a shoe.

Also, BJ Ryan did not lose 10 mph, he never threw 95-97, he threw 91-93, and now he’s throwing 87-89.

And the pirates have just as many pitching injury issues as the jays do.

By: The iTod

The iTod — Thu, 28 May 2009 21:12:52 +0000

Gary is correct. Young arms need to slowly build up innings until they get through the injury “nexus” age of around 25. If the innings are jumped heavily before then it is statistically shown that injuries are likely and many times it will ruin the players career.

This is borderline criminal and ended many great pitching careers such as Mark Fydrich prematurely. He would have been great for a long time but the Tigers rode him until his arm fell off and he was pretty young when he made the innings jump and pitched so many complete games. (including back to back extra innings complete games!)

If I was a young Toronto pitcher I would be in a hurry to come back and pitch in the majors so I could get through my option and arb years, thus allowing me to get to free agency and leave and make some money before they destroyed my arm.

By: Chatterbalks | Toronto Blue Jays Hate Pitchers!

Chatterbalks | Toronto Blue Jays Hate Pitchers! — Wed, 20 May 2009 20:48:35 +0000

[...] Blue Jays have a record of mistreating pitchers, and this great article by the guys over at Full Pitch Count points out some disturbing trends. And it looks to continue amongst the likes of like Dustin [...]

By: Gary Armida

Gary Armida — Mon, 11 May 2009 09:37:04 +0000

Perhaps, you should read the article before saying I need to do a little investigation. It was acknowledged that Romero has an oblique strain. BJ Ryan lost 10 MPH off his fastball…that’s not an oblique. And, please spare me the pitching is unnatural act. I’ve written about that many times and discuss that with one of the best pitching coaches in the game all the time.

Facts are facts–the Blue Jays have a poor track record with young pitching, pure and simple. Those examples you just threw out are all veteran pitchers, not young kids who get brought up to the Majors, throw a dangerous amount of innings, and then get hurt. Instead of giving me veterans like Hampton and Byrd, try to come up with a team that has lost that many pitchers that aren’t even 25 or 26. I’ll wait for your answer, but there won’t be one.

If you can’t deal with facts, I don’t know what to tell you. It’s all there in front of you. Sorry if you didn’t like the message; it’s just merely point out the facts.

By: Bill

Bill — Mon, 11 May 2009 00:26:20 +0000

What a crock. So that means the Angels are also bad with John Lackey, Ervin Santana and Kelvim Escobar out with injuries. And the Braves with Mike Hampton and Paul Byrd being out. The mariners have Silva and Morrow on dl. The Dodgers have Hong Chih Kuo and Jeff Weaver out. Face it pitching is not a natural act. It places tremendous pressure on a persons arm. Besides both Romero and Ryan have oblique strains, not arm problems. So do a little more investigation before you spout off about a team.

By: David Allan

David Allan — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:15:30 +0000

Thanks for the nod by the way.

By: David Allan

David Allan — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:31:05 +0000

This is me nodding in agreement with this article 100%.